Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, no consensus. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 13:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season

The articles are unneeded for now and are somewhat based on predictions (see Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball) Will Mak 050389 18:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page for the same reasons:

Keep: This article can be modified to look less crystal ball-like. I spent time on these articles, and the schedules, for example, are accurate. Soxrock 20:22, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The main problem I have with these is that they are unneeded. Yes, they may be accurate and most of the "crystal ball" points could be removed, but I see no purpose of having an article on the 2008 and 2009 seasons. I also wanted to see what other editors may see as the usefulness of these articles. --Will Mak 050389 20:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It has information that can help. For example, if you want to see who the Steelers play first or next; you search the article and check. It may end up being useful. --Pupster21 Talk To Me 23:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, the articles do not have a set schedule (as they will not be released until the off-season before), it just lists the teams they will play based on their division. This is why I only nominated 2008 and 2009, and not 2007. --Will Mak 050389 23:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Oh please. Wait till the 2007 season finishes before starting with the 2008 season. This is a clear application of WP:CRYSTAL. I hope Steelers fans can wait that long. :) YechielMan 03:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep In all human probability, the season will take place, and the schedule will be as stated. Since this is an extremely notable subject, there's no reason not to have the article begun as soon as there's material--such as the schedule. Asking for them to be held off a few months seems a little unnecessary.DGG 05:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both unless more can be said about them than what's currently there. As it stands, it's not quite a crystal ball usage because nothing's being said - which is an equal problem. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both as Crystal Ball and per precedent set for Green Bay 2008 and 2009. ~ Bigr Tex 20:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both. as of now there is nothing said in the article(s) beside the schedule. Predictions can't be made, not even in the way of draft info. El hombre de haha 22:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; this is not Crystal-ballism, the NFL has released scheduling formulas and the majority of the opponents for each team through the 2009 season. In addition, the NFL WikiProject has gone ahead and created the season files for both the 2008 & 2009 seasons based on the factual information released by the NFL for each team in the league. There are obvious additional bits of information for some teams (new stadiums for the Dallas Cowboys and Indianapolis Colts for example), but the overall basic information is indeed factual and encyclopedic. --Mhking 00:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What makes the four sentences which are present at the moment encyclopedic? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep both per User:Mhking --ALL IN (u t c m l ) 17:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per User:YechielMan. Lankiveil 09:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.